HMS Networks AB (STU:4H3A) Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript Highlights: Strong Growth Amidst Organic Declines

Acquisition-driven growth and strategic challenges mark HMS Networks AB's Q2 2024 performance.

Summary
  • Total Growth: +20% driven by acquisition.
  • Organic Growth: -20% for Alpha line.
  • Order Intake: SEK769 million, 9% sequential growth, -22% organic decline.
  • Revenue: SEK845 million, 20% reported growth, -20% organic decline.
  • EBIT Margin: 20.4% adjusted EBIT margin.
  • Gross Margin: 61.9%, with HMS side at 63.9%.
  • Operating Expenses (OpEx): SEK423 million, 21% organic decline.
  • Adjusted Earnings Per Share: SEK2.12.
  • Net Debt: Almost SEK2.8 billion, with a net debt to adjusted EBITDA ratio of 3.05.
  • Cash Flow: SEK152 million, with small working capital release.
  • Inventory Impact: SEK100 million from destocking, primarily in Continental Europe and Japan.
  • Red Lion Contribution: Represents about one-third of the business.
  • Restructuring Costs: SEK27 million, with 44 positions reduced.
  • Interest Costs: SEK43 million out of SEK61 million in financials.
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Release Date: July 12, 2024

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.

Positive Points

  • Total growth of 20% driven by the acquisition of Red Lion Controls.
  • Sequential growth in order intake from the last quarter by 9%.
  • Improvement in EBIT margins and cash flow.
  • Strong position in the industrial market with over 10 million connected devices.
  • Positive progress in North America with good market orders.

Negative Points

  • Organic growth decline of 22% in order intake.
  • Weak revenue situation with a 20% decline in organic growth.
  • Challenges in Europe, particularly in Germany, with slower market recovery.
  • Significant impact from destocking, especially in Continental Europe and Japan.
  • Integration of Red Lion Controls requiring substantial effort and investment.

Q & A Highlights

Q: Can you provide an outlook for 2024 based on your largest customers' current sentiments?
A: Many customers initially expected a strong second half of 2024, but now anticipate growth delays into 2025. This reflects a general sentiment of postponing recovery by about two quarters. - Staffan Dahlstrom, CEO

Q: What are the positive and challenging aspects of the Red Lion integration so far?
A: Positively, we see strong team capabilities and opportunities for collaboration. Challenges include balancing integration efforts with maintaining current sales momentum and addressing underinvestment in manufacturing. - Staffan Dahlstrom, CEO

Q: Are all assets of Red Lion necessary for future operations, or are there parts that might be divested?
A: While most of Red Lion's assets fit well with our portfolio, there are some areas under review for potential divestment or changes. - Staffan Dahlstrom, CEO

Q: Can you elaborate on the customer recovery in North America and the challenges in Europe?
A: North America shows a good pickup, especially in machine builders and building automation. Europe, particularly in embedded components, faces slower recovery due to inventory reductions and weak market demand. - Staffan Dahlstrom, CEO

Q: What is the status of inventory buildup and working capital release?
A: Inventory reductions have started but are slow due to long lead times. Significant reductions are expected in the second half of the year. - Joakim Nideborn, CFO

Q: Are there any seasonality effects in Red Lion's performance?
A: No significant seasonality has been observed. We expect gradual improvement throughout the year. - Joakim Nideborn, CFO

Q: What are the expected synergies from the Red Lion acquisition?
A: The main synergies will come from cross-selling, operational improvements, and technology integration. These will materialize over the next few years. - Joakim Nideborn, CFO

Q: How do you view the current gross margin levels and future expectations?
A: Current gross margins are satisfactory and expected to remain stable. Improvements in high-margin areas like building automation contribute positively. - Joakim Nideborn, CFO

Q: What is the outlook for operating expenses (OpEx) in the coming quarters?
A: OpEx is expected to increase slightly as we resume marketing and travel activities, balancing cost control with necessary business initiatives. - Joakim Nideborn, CFO

Q: Are there any planned price changes for HMS or Red Lion products?
A: Annual price updates are typical, with small percentage increases for inflation compensation. Specific plans will be discussed later in the year. - Staffan Dahlstrom, CEO

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.