Qube Holdings Ltd (ASX:QUB) Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript Highlights: Strong Growth Amid Challenges

Qube Holdings Ltd (ASX:QUB) reports solid growth in EBITDA, EBIT, and NPATA, despite facing labor shortages and higher interest costs.

Summary
  • EBITDA: Up 11% on the prior period.
  • EBIT: Up 8% on the prior period.
  • Underlying NPATA: Increased by 6.5% to $141.2 million.
  • Underlying EPSA: Increased by $0.065 to $0.08.
  • Interim Dividend: Fully franked interim ordinary dividend of $0.04 per share.
  • Net Debt: $1.249 billion, an increase of circa $300 million from June '23.
  • Capital Expenditure: Gross CapEx of $357 million, including $79 million on growth CapEx and $104 million on maintenance.
  • Return on Average Capital Employed: 9.4%, with an adjusted figure of 10.1% excluding certain capital.
  • Revenue Growth: Achieved GDP plus growth.
  • Cash Conversion Ratio: 60% for the first half, expected to improve to around 90% for the full year.
  • Available Liquidity: $953 million comprising undrawn debt facilities and cash.
  • Full Year CapEx Estimate: $550 million to $600 million.
  • Full Year NPATA and EPSA Outlook: Expected to be between 5% and 10% above last year's result.
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Release Date: February 21, 2024

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.

Positive Points

  • Qube Holdings Ltd (ASX:QUB, Financial) reported solid underlying growth and dividend growth for the first half of 2024, despite some areas underperforming expectations.
  • The company's container and automotive businesses performed better than expected, with strong container volumes and high automotive activity.
  • Qube's energy business continues to grow and is well-positioned for further growth in the second half of the year.
  • The logistics and infrastructure business unit saw strong earnings from core container logistics and high utilization across automotive terminals.
  • The Ports & Bulk business unit achieved strong growth in revenue and earnings, benefiting from strong revenue across most areas and contributions from recent acquisitions.

Negative Points

  • Agri volumes, particularly bulk grain volumes in New South Wales, were lower than expected and materially lower than the same period last year.
  • New Zealand forestry volumes were below expectations, and the outlook remains uncertain due to potential lumpy exports to China.
  • The bulk business faced ongoing impacts from skilled labor shortages, which affected margins in some areas.
  • The company experienced higher interest costs compared to the same period last year, reflecting the increasing interest rate environment.
  • There were two fatalities during the period, one in the South Australian forestry operation and another involving a third-party contractor at a rail crossing in Victoria.

Q & A Highlights

Q: We've been hearing about the labor shortage issues in your bulk business now for a little while. What are you doing to address this, and how long do you think these issues could persist?
A: Over the last six months, we've made good progress on recruitment both domestically and from foreign markets. We expect improvements over the next 12 months due to our efforts and possibly a market downturn, which could ease labor shortages.

Q: You've slightly increased your CapEx guidance for FY24 compared to the August results. What are the key drivers of this increase?
A: The increase is primarily due to M&A activity completed in the first half. Excluding M&A, our CapEx guidance remains within the range we provided in August.

Q: Can you explain the margin profile improvement in the logistics division despite a revenue decline?
A: The improvement is due to strong performance in core container logistics and automotive terminals, which offset the decline in agriculture-related revenues. Additionally, we benefited from high export volumes and ancillary revenue from quarantine services.

Q: How do you expect the balance sheet to evolve, considering better Patrick's cash flows and no planned M&A for the second half?
A: We expect our net debt position to improve due to better inflows from Patrick, improved working capital, and lower cash CapEx. This excludes any potential acquisitions.

Q: What is the outlook for New Zealand forestry, and how significant is it to your overall margins?
A: We've implemented cost initiatives that will benefit margins in the second half. While volume visibility remains uncertain, we expect some improvement. New Zealand forestry is a smaller part of our operations but has been underperforming compared to previous years.

Q: Can you provide more details on the grain trading capability and its impact on working capital?
A: The grain trading strategy focuses on trading within our infrastructure with a prudent risk framework. The main investment is in working capital for grain inventory, which could fluctuate between $30 million to $40 million.

Q: What are the expected impacts of the recent infrastructure charge increases at Patrick?
A: We can't provide a specific percentage, but the increases are linked to inflation and our CapEx investments. These charges help offset operating cost inflation.

Q: With the completion of key infrastructure projects at Moorebank, when can we expect to see significant volume ramp-up?
A: We anticipate having five port shuttles per day and 15 regional train services per week by the end of this financial year, leading to an annualized run rate of 300,000 to 350,000 TEUs.

Q: What drove the big increase in profits for your smaller associates, and is it sustainable?
A: The increase was driven by strong performance from Prixcar and other associates. We believe this performance is sustainable, with potential for further upside.

Q: How is consumer confidence impacting your business, particularly in the logistics and infrastructure sectors?
A: While consumer confidence is improving, we haven't seen a significant impact on import volumes yet. Export volumes remain strong, and we expect this trend to continue in the near term.

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.