SNP Schneider-Neureither & Partner SE (FRA:SHF) Q2 2024 Earnings Call Highlights: Robust Revenue Growth and Strategic Expansion

SNP Schneider-Neureither & Partner SE reports a 64% revenue increase and strong software performance, while navigating strategic challenges and opportunities.

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Oct 09, 2024
Summary
  • Revenue: Increased from EUR 48.5 million to EUR 62 million, a 64% growth compared to Q2 2023.
  • Software Revenue: More than doubled compared to Q4 2022.
  • EBIT: Increased by EUR 9 million, with the EBIT margin three times better than in H1 2023.
  • Operating Cash Flow: Positive at EUR 4.7 million compared to negative EUR 9 million in H1 2023.
  • Order Entry: 108% growth in software and partner business, with a 45% overall order entry increase.
  • Order Backlog: Stable with no project losses, minor project remeasurements noted.
  • Guidance for Revenue: Forecasted range between EUR 225 million and EUR 240 million.
  • Guidance for EBIT: Forecasted range between EUR 16 million and EUR 20 million.
  • Headcount: Increased by 55, primarily in the Services segment due to the acquisition of the Trigon Group.
  • Equity Ratio: Improved, supported by a new bank loan at favorable interest rates.
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Release Date: August 08, 2024

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.

Positive Points

  • SNP Schneider-Neureither & Partner SE reported strong revenue growth, increasing from EUR 48.5 million to EUR 62 million, with a notable 64% increase in software revenue compared to Q2 2023.
  • The company successfully resolved a legal dispute with the community of heirs, receiving over 99% shareholder approval for the agreement.
  • The partner business accounted for 54% of total order entry in H1, demonstrating strong strategic growth and collaboration with major IT players.
  • SNP raised its revenue guidance to a range of EUR 225 million to EUR 240 million and increased its EBIT forecast to between EUR 16 million and EUR 20 million.
  • The company achieved a significant improvement in EBIT, with a EUR 9 million increase and a threefold improvement in EBIT margin compared to H1 2023.

Negative Points

  • Despite strong topline growth, the updated guidance implies a lower H2 growth rate of around 8% and an EBIT margin of roughly 5%, which may be seen as conservative.
  • Personnel costs increased due to higher headcount and salary adjustments, impacting overall expenses.
  • The company experienced increased travel and marketing expenses, partly due to efforts to expand into new markets like Brazil, Nordics, and the Middle East.
  • Payments from lease liabilities increased significantly, influenced by the acquisition of the Trigon Group.
  • The operating cash flow in Q2 was negative, primarily due to bonus and variable payments for the successful year 2023, reducing the strong Q1 cash flow.

Q & A Highlights

Q: Could you quantify the impact of large program licenses in Q2? Are these the two megadeals mentioned in the presentation?
A: Yes, we have two megadeals in Q2 totaling EUR 17 million, with one deal having a high software share of 65%. These are specific licenses related to transformation programs, not all-you-can-eat licenses. - Jens Amail, CEO

Q: The updated guidance implies H2 growth of around 8% at an EBIT margin of roughly 5%, which seems low given recent trends. Could you explain your thinking?
A: We increased the midpoint of our revenue by around 6% and the EBIT by 11%. This reflects our current outlook. - Jens Amail, CEO

Q: How important are the largest partners in your partner business? Are there a few very large partners carrying the business?
A: Approximately 50% of the business is done by our top 5 system integration partners. - Jens Amail, CEO

Q: There was an increase in payments from lease liabilities. Could you explain why and where you see that for the full year?
A: This impact comes from our acquisition of Trigon, affecting the purchase price allocation slightly. It's not a significant change, and we might see a slight increase in EBITDA differences due to this acquisition. - Andreas Roderer, CFO

Q: Can you provide more details on the strong topline growth, especially in software?
A: The software segment increased well above average by 31%, driven by strategic growth markets and strong partner business performance. - Jens Amail, CEO

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.