Knowit AB (LTS:0GNK) Q2 2024 Earnings Call Transcript Highlights: Strong EBITDA Margins Amid Market Challenges

Knowit AB (LTS:0GNK) reports improved EBITDA margins and signs of market recovery in Norway and Denmark, despite ongoing challenges in Sweden.

Summary
  • Net Sales (Solutions): SEK933 million
  • EBITDA Margin (Solutions): 7.3%
  • Net Sales (Digital Agency): SEK320 million
  • EBITDA Margin (Digital Agency): 6%
  • Net Sales (Connectivity): SEK207 million
  • EBITDA Margin (Connectivity): 8%
  • Net Sales (Management Consultancy): SEK233 million
  • EBITDA Margin (Management Consultancy): 6.5%
  • Group Sales: SEK1.7 billion
  • Adjusted EBITDA: SEK94.2 million
  • Adjusted EBITDA Margin: 5.6%
  • Restructuring Costs: SEK21 million
  • Net Debt: SEK917 million
  • Leverage Ratio: 1.5%
  • Rolling 12-Month Revenue: SEK6.8 billion
  • Rolling 12-Month Adjusted EBITDA: SEK453 million
  • Rolling 12-Month Adjusted EBITDA Margin: 6.6%
  • Group Sales: SEK1.7 billion
  • Adjusted EBITDA: SEK94.2 million
  • Adjusted EBITDA Margin: 5.6%
  • Restructuring Costs: SEK21 million
  • Net Debt: SEK917 million
  • Leverage Ratio: 1.5%
  • Rolling 12-Month Revenue: SEK6.8 billion
  • Rolling 12-Month Adjusted EBITDA: SEK453 million
  • Rolling 12-Month Adjusted EBITDA Margin: 6.6%
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Release Date: July 19, 2024

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.

Positive Points

  • Adjusted EBITDA improved for the first time since Q1 '23 due to cost reductions and organizational changes.
  • Signs of market improvement in Norway and Denmark, with stable conditions in Finland and Poland.
  • Solutions business area reported an increased EBITDA margin of 7.3%, driven by improved utilization rates.
  • Connectivity business area maintained a solid position in the industry segment, securing new assignments despite market weakness.
  • Revenue per FTE increased, indicating better efficiency and productivity.

Negative Points

  • Sweden remains the most challenging market with no significant signs of improvement in the public sector.
  • Digital agency's EBITDA margin, although improved, is still considered too low, especially in Sweden.
  • Overall sales decreased by 4.4%, with a notable reduction in the number of employees.
  • Restructuring costs amounted to SEK21 million, reflecting ongoing adjustments to low utilization rates.
  • Hourly rates, although increased, are still under pressure due to intense market competition.

Q & A Highlights

Q: How much did the calendar effect contribute to sales and EBIT, and which business area has the largest exposure to Norway?
A: The calendar effect was 11 hours, but the exact amount is not disclosed. The largest exposure to Norway is in the Experience business area. (Marie Bjorklund, CFO)

Q: Can you elaborate on the Swedish market and any improvements in public sector demand?
A: We don't see improvements in the public sector in Sweden yet. We expect potential improvements in 2025. Currently, we see stronger activity in the defense industry and other segments. (Per Wallentin, CEO)

Q: Is the improved utilization related to cybersecurity and defense in connectivity and insight?
A: The improvement is broader and not connected to market development but rather to our own organizational adjustments. (Per Wallentin, CEO)

Q: How do you prioritize between retaining margins versus gaining sales and higher utilization?
A: We consider long-term possibilities and make a balance for each project to decide on pricing and whether to take on new projects. (Per Wallentin, CEO and Marie Bjorklund, CFO)

Q: Have you observed any positive utilization improvement throughout Q2?
A: Yes, we have seen a small increase in utilization month by month during the quarter. (Marie Bjorklund, CFO)

For the complete transcript of the earnings call, please refer to the full earnings call transcript.